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Pretraining Data Scale Reverses the Muon-AdamW Fine-Tuning Gap

Paper recorded by Signals 4 on 2026-11-02 in cs.LG. Abstract reproduced from arXiv; link to the original below.

Published 2026-11-02 on arXiv · recorded by Signals 4 on 2026-11-03

Category: cs.LG · 机器学习 · first seen 2026-11-03

Abstract

Muon has recently emerged as a promising optimizer for pretraining large language models, offering a speedup over AdamW in minimizing pretraining loss. However, it remains unclear whether Muon's advantage persists after fine-tuning. In this paper, we study the downstream behavior of Muon and AdamW and uncover a surprising trend: beyond a sufficiently large pretraining data budget, AdamW outperform

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